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    Kid Rock: The CMT Insider Interview
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    December 22, 2010

    CMT: On Born Free, you worked with producer Rick Rubin. What do we hear different as a result of his involvement?

    Kid Rock: Rick's been a good friend for a long time, I'd say 10 years plus. His greatest talent is really bringing out who you are and where you're heading musically -- and really keeping you true to that. He's always said to me, "I think you've positioned yourself to make the next really great Americana, rock 'n' roll record with all your tinges of blues and country music, hip-hop, rock 'n' roll." I just gave him the wheel. And I left my comfort zone of my home studio in Detroit, which I've been pretty successful doing what I do best there, and let him have the wheel and rode shotgun. Doesn't mean I wasn't yellin' out once in a while -- "Hey, turn left here!" ...

    It was a great experience. He brought in a lot of great players and really made me focus on the songs. He raised all the keys and made me sing in a lot higher keys than I'm used to. He put me to work, which I'm not scared to work. I've worked very hard to get where I'm at, but he even took it to another level of making me really work hard and focus on the songs, singing and just having great players in the studio. We knocked that record out after we had spent so much time writing it. We got all the great players in the studio together. We recorded it in two weeks. It was done. No quick tracks, no tomfoolery. It was just honest people sitting around that have practiced the craft for a long time. ... We made a record like the way it's supposed to be made, I think.

    CMT: In that regard, for lack of a better description, it's maybe a more organic record.

    Kid Rock: Mmm-hmmm.

    CMT: Do you think it will change people's perception of you a little bit because it is more of a move in that direction?

    Kid Rock:
    I'm not sure if there's any way anybody could really ... I mean, to have a perception of me, I guess, is to make whatever perception you want because there's enough information out there to support any perception you want to make of me. This record is just another move. ... I've always made music from the heart, and that's what I do. And at the end of the day, whether it works or not, I can say I tried my best. That's really me doing that, and I'm not just doing something for the sake of trying to get it played on the radio or for a format or to please a certain group of people or whatever. It's just what I think is good music from the heart, and that's all I got.

    CMT: We've seen you in Nashville a lot. When did you first come to town? And how have your relationships here changed how you see yourself or the kind of music you're putting out? Has it affected you in that way at all?

    Kid Rock:
    Yeah, sure. I started coming to Nashville years ago, just touring. I've always had a love of country music. ... One thing I found about Nashville is, you know, Music City. It has some of the greatest players, songwriters -- just musical people -- in the world. And my dad always told me, "If you want to be a painter, don't hang out with a carpenter." So I started spending some time down here around the best painters that I knew of. They kind of opened up their world to me and let me be a part of it. So I'm very happy to be down here, and I hope I make a pretty good guest.

    CMT: One of the cuts on the new album features Martina McBride and T.I. When people look at the public persona of all three of you, they probably think, "Now, how's that gonna work?" How did you make it work -- and do you think it'll surprise some people?

    Kid Rock: I think the surprising part is Kid Rock has a song with Martina McBride and T.I., and people go "What? OK, he's just trying to shake things up." This, that, and the other -- and that's not the case at all. ... I could have done the whole song by myself. I could have sung Martina's part and I could have rapped T.I.'s part, but I thought the song is such an important song. The song's called "Care." I think it really speaks to everything going on nowadays. It says, "They're screamin' on the left, and they're yellin' on the right/I'm sittin' in the middle tryin' to live my life," which I think speaks to the politics nowadays without taking a side.

    I thought it would be much more powerful to grab a very classy country singer like Martina and a rapper like T.I., who I respect, and bring all these worlds together for the sake of making a great song and, hopefully, opening the eyes and ears of some people that maybe wouldn't have heard it or listened to it. And now that Martina McBride knows of T.I., and T.I. knows of Martina McBride, that made me very happy, too. It's introducing worlds to different people and bringing them together with a song. That's what I really think it's all about at the end of the day -- bringing people together through music.

    CMT: You've also got a cut with Zac Brown, which some would say sounds like a couple of guys just sittin' on the front porch pickin'. Is that what you were going for?

    Kid Rock:
    Completely. When we wrote that song -- it's called "Flyin' High" -- we were calling it "The Porch Song." ... I'm the biggest fan of the Zac Brown Band. Love, love 'em to death. Think they're one of the most talented things going in the business, and I'm always following them around like their groupie. They're kind enough to let me jump onstage with them and sing a song here and there, and usually we're doing a Marshall Tucker song or "All Summer Long" or "Chicken Fried" or something like that. Me and Zac have always talked about, "We should just write own song and have something to sing every time we get together." So when we finished this song, I was like, "Ah, I think this will work with me and Zac." Once again, I'm very, very happy to have him on the record with me and to be able to share that love of music with a good friend.

    CMT: Do you feel this record has more soul because of the way you cut it?

    Kid Rock: Yeah, the record definitely has more soul because of the way we cut it because not only have I learned a lot in the 20-plus years that I've been making music, it's been a natural progression of trying to fine-tune my craft -- what I'm good at, what I want to do, what comes from my heart, which is music and write songs. So I think it's right where I'm supposed to be. It's just ... you know, getting better and working hard. I can definitely say I haven't got lazy.

    SOURCE: CMT.com / CMT News

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CMT: On Born Free, you worked with producer Rick Rubin. What do we hear different as a result of his involvement?

Kid Rock: Rick's been a good friend for a long time, I'd say 10 years plus. His greatest talent is really bringing out who you are and where you're heading musically -- and really keeping you true to that. He's always said to me, "I think you've positioned yourself to make the next really great Americana, rock 'n' roll record with all your tinges of blues and country music, hip-hop, rock 'n' roll." I just gave him the wheel. And I left my comfort zone of my home studio in Detroit, which I've been pretty successful doing what I do best there, and let him have the wheel and rode shotgun. Doesn't mean I wasn't yellin' out once in a while -- "Hey, turn left here!" ...

It was a great experience. He brought in a lot of great players and really made me focus on the songs. He raised all the keys and made me sing in a lot higher keys than I'm used to. He put me to work, which I'm not scared to work. I've worked very hard to get where I'm at, but he even took it to another level of making me really work hard and focus on the songs, singing and just having great players in the studio. We knocked that record out after we had spent so much time writing it. We got all the great players in the studio together. We recorded it in two weeks. It was done. No quick tracks, no tomfoolery. It was just honest people sitting around that have practiced the craft for a long time. ... We made a record like the way it's supposed to be made, I think.

CMT: In that regard, for lack of a better description, it's maybe a more organic record.

Kid Rock: Mmm-hmmm.

CMT: Do you think it will change people's perception of you a little bit because it is more of a move in that direction?

Kid Rock:
I'm not sure if there's any way anybody could really ... I mean, to have a perception of me, I guess, is to make whatever perception you want because there's enough information out there to support any perception you want to make of me. This record is just another move. ... I've always made music from the heart, and that's what I do. And at the end of the day, whether it works or not, I can say I tried my best. That's really me doing that, and I'm not just doing something for the sake of trying to get it played on the radio or for a format or to please a certain group of people or whatever. It's just what I think is good music from the heart, and that's all I got.

CMT: We've seen you in Nashville a lot. When did you first come to town? And how have your relationships here changed how you see yourself or the kind of music you're putting out? Has it affected you in that way at all?

Kid Rock:
Yeah, sure. I started coming to Nashville years ago, just touring. I've always had a love of country music. ... One thing I found about Nashville is, you know, Music City. It has some of the greatest players, songwriters -- just musical people -- in the world. And my dad always told me, "If you want to be a painter, don't hang out with a carpenter." So I started spending some time down here around the best painters that I knew of. They kind of opened up their world to me and let me be a part of it. So I'm very happy to be down here, and I hope I make a pretty good guest.

CMT: One of the cuts on the new album features Martina McBride and T.I. When people look at the public persona of all three of you, they probably think, "Now, how's that gonna work?" How did you make it work -- and do you think it'll surprise some people?

Kid Rock: I think the surprising part is Kid Rock has a song with Martina McBride and T.I., and people go "What? OK, he's just trying to shake things up." This, that, and the other -- and that's not the case at all. ... I could have done the whole song by myself. I could have sung Martina's part and I could have rapped T.I.'s part, but I thought the song is such an important song. The song's called "Care." I think it really speaks to everything going on nowadays. It says, "They're screamin' on the left, and they're yellin' on the right/I'm sittin' in the middle tryin' to live my life," which I think speaks to the politics nowadays without taking a side.

I thought it would be much more powerful to grab a very classy country singer like Martina and a rapper like T.I., who I respect, and bring all these worlds together for the sake of making a great song and, hopefully, opening the eyes and ears of some people that maybe wouldn't have heard it or listened to it. And now that Martina McBride knows of T.I., and T.I. knows of Martina McBride, that made me very happy, too. It's introducing worlds to different people and bringing them together with a song. That's what I really think it's all about at the end of the day -- bringing people together through music.

CMT: You've also got a cut with Zac Brown, which some would say sounds like a couple of guys just sittin' on the front porch pickin'. Is that what you were going for?

Kid Rock:
Completely. When we wrote that song -- it's called "Flyin' High" -- we were calling it "The Porch Song." ... I'm the biggest fan of the Zac Brown Band. Love, love 'em to death. Think they're one of the most talented things going in the business, and I'm always following them around like their groupie. They're kind enough to let me jump onstage with them and sing a song here and there, and usually we're doing a Marshall Tucker song or "All Summer Long" or "Chicken Fried" or something like that. Me and Zac have always talked about, "We should just write own song and have something to sing every time we get together." So when we finished this song, I was like, "Ah, I think this will work with me and Zac." Once again, I'm very, very happy to have him on the record with me and to be able to share that love of music with a good friend.

CMT: Do you feel this record has more soul because of the way you cut it?

Kid Rock: Yeah, the record definitely has more soul because of the way we cut it because not only have I learned a lot in the 20-plus years that I've been making music, it's been a natural progression of trying to fine-tune my craft -- what I'm good at, what I want to do, what comes from my heart, which is music and write songs. So I think it's right where I'm supposed to be. It's just ... you know, getting better and working hard. I can definitely say I haven't got lazy.

SOURCE: CMT.com / CMT News

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Ruby_4's picture

Make no mistake this is a much more soulful album it had to be you are in the afternoon of your life! That doesn't come with age or a place..it comes from finding what God gave you when you were born and the freedom comes from finding how to share with others!
Amy_161's picture

I feel like you are right beside me going through my life with me.... Bob. WE are the same age and I can see as I'm getting older, how your music has been with me during the changes... From the first minute I listend to the songs from Born Free I had tears streaming and said. "how does he know, what all I have been through this past year" When Rock N Roll Jesus came out it was awesome and changed so many things.... But then I've lived through a divorce and lots of changes in 2010... Then you gifted me with Born Free.... I can honestly see that Rock On was writeen directly for ME!!!! Love you Bob, I will be front and center in B'ham and again in MEMPHIS.... SEE YOU SOON
Robert_89's picture

the new album is one of the best... can't wait for next 1..
Kimberly_43's picture

:) Love you Bob!
Belle_2's picture

I love the new kid Rock CD!!!!!
Tim_28's picture

When I first picked up this LP I wasn't sure if it was The Early Morning Stoned Pimp of The Nation or K snooze. The more I listen to it the more I like it. Shows that Rock can adapt to a dynamic music industry and put out quality work I love it! I leave it feeling like there should be some tune like "Black Bob" it doesn't have the feel of killer song like that but nevertheless it's good. I'm old anyway I got turned on to Kid Rock searching for Hank Williams Jr on Napster and found Kid Rock doing "A Country Boy Can Survive". I met Rockin' Randal in 1982. I have a picture to prove it I think it's cool as hell that the Detroit City Cowboy hangs with Bocephus. Gotta like it.
Kidrock girl's picture

You so rock ! Thank god for friends that you have had for yrs ,,,,,,,,,,,,Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year .................All I wanted for Christmas was Kidrock to knock on my door and say hello to my grandbabys >.....we still love ya Bobby ...........Adriana wants you to teach her to play the guitar ..thats all she is saying he will show me Nana.Kids say the darniest things .......She wants to learn Born Free For our troops ..........
jjc's picture

Your comment on perception is exactlly what I think. A person can come up with almost anything they want to. The blitz out there is unbelievable. I know I wouldn't it take very calmly. But for fun here goes my take, "perception" . Coming from a sister who has had brothers with bands and watched the reaction to them and to me. You are not playing Texas Holdem. Your playing five card draw. Holding your cards close to your chest. With Born Free you drew to and inside straight. You never bluff, usually. Your tells are your laugh, the way you cross you legs when you sit, how you blow smoke. And maybe the way you hold a glass of whiskey or a bottle of beer. Ha Ha, now I 'm the one with the crazy perception.
stephrocks's picture

Love that you shared the making of Born Free. Just enjoying how well you are growing as an artist. Hope there is a lot more in you.!
Beckxy's picture

"bringing people together through music" I have met so many beautiful ~ wonderful people since we started seeing Kid Rock and TBT in concert, Oct of 1999. They are life-long friends. We tailgate together, share rooms, see the show together, post-party, we had gone on vacation with them together ~ Chillin the Most cruise was even more the ultimate vacation.. where I'd gotten to know even more kind and caring ppl that would post on KRAA and we never had a chance to really spend a great deal with. I have such an appreciation to have that opportunity. They got the greatest fans in the world !! Geniune, Good, Caring, Hard-working ppl.. love the family:)
Nixx Bieber's picture

yeah. awesome read, thanks for sharing! I love all of the CDs. They just show the changes and the growth. I love it! Keep it up Bob, you are on the right path. Merry Christmas, a fun relaxed time with your family and an awesome jump into 2011!
LHooker's picture

i said the first day the album was posted online to listen to that it would be one of the greatest records of all time... and it has.. Care is such a great song when you think TI Kid Rock Martina McBride WTF kinda song will that be.. one of a kind and speaks to everyone...
itsrealnifeelit's picture

''ROCK ON'' !!!!!
Miss Missy's picture

Great interview..Had to laugh cause I had some time to play on pc this week and play some catch-up. lol I have never seen the video Toes by ZBB and you are in the video...hahaha love jet skiing, wave runners, whatever ya call it. I just call it fun. Too much fun. Lovin Born Free.
Esther Speer's picture

BORN FREE-------All I can say is the best damn CD i've ever bought. Can't get enough of the song WHEN IT RAINS.....Thank You for the best CD and you should win lots of awards for this one. A fan of the Kid forever, that's me.....Have a Merry Christmas - - Happy New Year...Keep singing..Love You
kidrockfan0102's picture

I LOVE the BORN FREE album!!! I have 2 copies of all of Kid Rock's cds.....1 for the house and 1 for my car!!!! I can't get enough of the entire Born Free album!!! Bob, you are so talented and as I listen to the progression of your voice, lyrics, and soul throughout all your albums all I can simply say you out do yourself with every album....40 is going to be very good to you!!!! Whatever my mood or life situation you have a song that fits and all I have to do is pop it the cd player! THANK YOU! I love your music now more than ever!!! You are an amazing man!!! Not to mention HOTT, sexy, caring and you know how to throw one hell of a party! Looking forward to Chillin The Most....Round 2!!!!! Also, looking forward to Detroit Birthday Bash at "40 Field" Toledo , OH and Columbus, OH but most of all April on the cruise!!! Bob, I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!! Take Care......
SherZ's picture

Completely Awesome. :)
MissJessicaJean's picture

Born Free Rock n Roll Jesus Kid Rock, Cocky, Devil without a Cause Zac Brown Band-Pass the Jar, Those are the cds I have in my truck and no one is allowed to take them out or change the order.(not even the hubby) I listen to them everyday!! Your voice is amazing to listen too. There's always a song I can put on for whatever mood I'm in. My current favs are "God bless Saturday" which I play on my way to work at 6am, and "Rock On." Got to see you at Summerfest in Milwaukee, Hope you plan on making your way there again. It was a Kick Ass show. LOVE YA!!
Evaskidrockssugarbaby's picture

love it love it love it just like all the other cd theres alot on the cd lots of fun and lots of meaning just like the other cds hes a legend in his in own right love ya kid rock
Lisa_320's picture

I am FEELING this cd~
Mona_8's picture

I have seen you in concert at least 10 times and will go to hundreds more..Everyone is always surprised when they hear I am a KID ROCK fan.I am a married white 56 year old..pretty straight laced gal.don't smoke don't drink..LOL!! I love Kid for all he does and doesn't say...He was entertaining troops and doing charity long before it was 'fashoniable'....I know what kind of man he is and for that in addition to his music I will forever be a fan...
KRSVal's picture

Love Love Love Born Free and the Father Time 4-pack. Can't wait to see you in Saginaw!!!
sanblr63's picture

I have always been a huge Kid Rock fan, I love his new CD and think people really need to listen to the words and music of this cd and appreciate it. I can't wait to see the Kid at Ford(y) Field and many concerts after that. I will always be the #1 Fan.
goodgirl211's picture

Thank you..For just being you.
D4evr's picture

" I've always made music from the heart...bringing people together through music." Bob, your 'voice' is so much more than tone: your Faith~rock solid, and your light~Brilliant* Thank You :) You surely left your comfort zone; but, you brought your soul.
Von_2's picture

I am a huge Kid Rock fan always have been....love all the music you do it is all GREAT. I do LOVE the Born Free Album all of the combinations & different performers are great...everybody just fits the songs perfect. Love how you put your heart & soul into everything you do. I think the next step for you is ACTING & doing a movie; would love to see you in a movie with Willie Nelson, Toby Keith & some more of the great outlaws Willie has performed with on screen. I know you 3 alone could headline a great movie. Here's hoping to someday meet you in person....Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you, Jr. & the rest of your family.
Cindy soul's picture

Dear Mr Ritchie, My perception of Born Free is the real you coming out and sharing you heart and soul with many people. Threw the words of all the songs you are allowing people to know the real you. I hear you saying . LISTEN FROM YOUR EARS SEE THREW YOUR EYES FEEL FROM YOUR HEART CARE FROM THE SOUL I would like to thank you for introducing people to see the real needs in this world we live in and all we have to do is CARE We are all in the middle trying to live our lifes but everyone needs to reach out and help others in need . One day I would love just to be able to sit down and talk to you about life and share some stories and how we can help others to take their LOVE TO A HIGHER PLACE , WITH BEING A SPECIAL NEEDS TEACHER AND HELPING OTHERS OUT WHO HAVE NO ONE OR FAMILY I KNOW IT FEEL'S GOOD TO ME . And on that day as we meet just maybe our souls will Collide and we can reach out and help many more folks who are in need . As I have said Thank you for all you do and to share you inner self feelings from your soul. Will be seeing you in Dayton OH in JAN and can't wait for you to feel my soul I know you will . With much Love Cindy Seals Douglas Enjoy your Holidays with your family & God bless
Kati Jacobs's picture

Just can't Thank You Enough for all your music. Rock & Roll Jesus was the start of my new life. Can't wait to see you and Jamie in Wichita, I'm sure it will be the best I have seen in many years. Also you all doing the Cruise is the BEST just perfect timing I have short time off for me and my horse. I can't WAIT SO EXCITED Thanks again you all for everything you all do.!!!!!!
Kati Jacobs's picture

I have to say that your songs so get to my heart and soul. Its like its time to pick myself up and dust off and go on to the next rodeo, barrel race, construction site or even to get out there back in the loop. Just like the song Rock On baby. Better yet Born Free and of course Collide all these songs have helped me to get my self put back together after a long time. I THANK YOU SO MUCH
Katamis's picture

Yeah, the Born Free CD definitely shows your heart and is different from anything else you have done, yet, that is how I see you. You have the greatest knack for mixin' up different genres of music, making your own style. It's just seems to be you...the one and only "Kid Rock" No One does it quite like you. It's all real, feel ya kind of stuff...I love the new CD. I actually purchased it the day before it was officially released at the local Little Ceasar's Pizza. The more I listen to it, the more I pick up on it, with the lyrics, the acoustics...It's been a little bit of an adjustment for my ears hearing your singing more high pitched...sometimes, it sounds like your vocal chords are straining a bit...I don't know, I love your smooth, soothing lower voice very much though...either way you're all right with me. Love ya to death and really dig all the cool stuff you do outside of the music too! You're one of a kind! Rock on...baby...Rock on :) PS: Looking forward to seeing you perform in Toledo. 2001, 2008 & 2011. Wooo Hooo!!!

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