hey guys, so im comin over from Australia with a couple friends and we are hiring and RV to drive to these Detroit gigs, in Clarkston, was wondering if anyone knows of any caravan parks around Clarkston that would be good to stay at? and also any tips on what areas we should stay away from to avoid trouble?
Just curious if anyone could help me answer a question? I am going to a sleeptrain ampitheatre to see Bobby and was thinking about buying premium RV parking. My question is, will they let us spend the night or kick us out. I really don't want to have to be sober for this event and thought my little camp trailer may do the trick. I have looked online and can't find the answer. If anyone knows I would love to hear from you.
Can't wait for the show!
Laura
There's no reason to work for the man in this wonderful country of ours. Just met with my husbands , now my business partner to go over the details of the new company . He and my spouse ave been working on patents for sometime and he's has quite a few and other ventures and seeing how he has some free time now we decided upon our venture of passive income bringing in about 15 g a day to start. I'm gonna be busy doing the marketing portion since I have all the contacts until it gets going and off the ground and then well, fishing, writing a few songs.
ever wants to take your essentials and just check out on your current life. Pack your bags, get in the car, spin the bottle and ever look back? Some days i just want to do that. Take me and my cat and just take off to somewhere better then here.
I swear some days the ppl in my life are incessant about being assholes to me and then wonder why i want to leave for good. Just get a map out or google someplace and go there. Find a job, find a decent place to live and check out of my current life.
Perhaps i may be a bit crazy...but perhaps i might be the most sane person you know?
dont going saying bullshit about my man send him a message he is not out to do anyone wrong to anyone so fuck yall
Interesting that this has been all over the news in the last couple days...
Interesting that this has been all over the news in the last couple days...
biting is hot
You have taken the opportunity to take yet another cheap shot at me, by golly, you should start hanging out with the BJ's and the Lori's of the site.. Hollier then thou attitudes, with no ability whatsoever to debate.
Come on over to the dark side Shady...I promise you we would never befriend you then blurt out your personal shit like this...
Kevin, screw you - I have plenty of intelligence to debate with you - you bitter jackass! Don't address me specifically again, you aren't smart enough to battle wits with me. I haven't been on here in over a week and I come back to find this shit! You need to get over yourself. King Kevin bite me!
I have one thing to say and only because I cannot stand for you to think I was up all night over you but I'm not surprised you read it that, hahahaha. I was up all night wondering and worrying about whether or not there may have really been a friend of ours my words could have hurt.
Ok, two things, I notice how you don't really have a response to anything that I have said...just more about YOU, the most electrifying poster on the internet. That's ok though, I'm confident that my last post if nothing else that I have said to you says it all.
IMO if my man cheats on me I am mad at my man. The only way I would blame the women is if she were someone I called a friend. This women my man is cheating with owes me nothing in life but the man I sleep with he owes me big time.
This is my opinion and I am not asking you to feel the same only stating how I feel.
You guys need to have a private conversation. This shit is no one else's business! You/We are just giving more for the lurking gossipers to fodder on.
I still do not get where I said anything hurtful when expressing my opinion? Was it hurtful to say you sounded bitter? Was it hurtful to say I felt you were being judgemental? If it were someone else would it matter? I think you tale my opinion and my words way to serious if you were up all night. Or maybe it was the fact you kept calling for an end to our friendship. Wishy Washy friend? Thats a laugh.. I get in heated debates with my friends all the time, about sports, politics, whatever, and we all know good and well once the debate or arguement is over, everything is normal again..
I disagreed with some of your generalizations or opinions, so be it..
Ok, if you didn't assume and you know for a fact that a friend of ours was so upset with my words in this blog then why did you bring it up here, shouldn't you have sent me a PM and said 'Hey Shady, knock it off, your really upsetting so and so" A friend would do that before they would say the things you have said to me here. Although, if you are not assuming then I cannot understand why that friend couldn't have said so directly to me.
It should be no surprise to my friends that I am very opinionated, sometimes, to the extreme. All any friend would have to do is say is shut the fuck up your upsetting me, your going to far or whatever.
kevin, I didn't turn this into anything. It was a discussion about cheating, I stayed on topic until you jumped all over me.
It's nice to know that you can say hurtful things to a friend of yours here and then log off and not think about it at all. I couldn't sleep at all last night. I felt pretty bad, you had me second guessing myself, I read this shit over and over to make sure I didn't make a mistake, I racked my brain trying to think of a possible friend of ours that would be upset with me for talking about my own shit. I finally decided he must be assuming because he would have told me if it was a fact or that friend would have told me so. He's just pissy with me.
At this point Kevin, I do not care what you understand and don't understand about me. Your a wishy washy friend and apparently I do not have the stomach for it.
BTW, I'm still married because my ex, who happens to still be a friend of mine, cares enough to keep me insured.
Yeah, I remember when I met you too. I was married. I don't recall it being good times though, things were pretty rough at home. I almost went against everything I believe and almost had sex with another man but I knew in my heart there was no good reason. I still feel sorry for letting it go as far as kissing. Not for his sake but for mine. I take some comfort in the fact t
Oh, Did I assume?
There u go assuming I assumed...
How are you turning any of this into me not being proud of you? How do you turn any of this into a case of me not wanting to be your friend? How did you turn me disagreeing with some of what you said into this being the last straw? Is it the last straw for you? Because I log off this thread, and really do not think about it any further..
Listen Shady, What I have said in this thread does not diminish the validity of what happen to you, or what happens to thousands of people a year. I still for the life of me do not understand why you have so much angst towards the woman who got involved with your husband, when your husband was very much to blame, if you ask me. However, Maybe I do not see things the way you do...
I remember when I met you.. I think you were married then.. Good times...
I do not hate you Shady, I do not dislike you, we disagree.. BFD, I debate the way I debate, fully confident I am right and you are wrong... When I wake up in the morning, I do not think any less of you, as a matter of fact, I still think of you and smile.. Even though you are wrong..
Shit, my PS was there when I pasted. Anyway...
PS~ I think it funny (Hey pot, this is kettle....) for you to assume our friends may be upset with ME for generalizing but wouldn't be upset with YOU for being more specific.
Ok, I know I'm wasing my time but I'm gonna respond one last time.
Yes, is specifically named you and Nicole in that post. Why? Because you generalized in your response that all these women who mess with Married Men are a disgrace to your gender, and all these women who cheat are this or that..
Nicole already straighten that out, I only agreed with her statement about the girl this blog was posted about.
You see, this is not about me at all, this is about me having enough respect for people that I would never generalize or sterotype a group of people. Every case is different. Again, you based your opinion on your own situation, which is most definately different then many other peoples situations. But I digress...
I don't see how my situation is so different with the majority of cases which is why I generalized many of my statements. I do know some that have very unique circumstances, I did not use those as reference because they are not mine to use. I never disagreed that each case is different, that kinda common sense. Again, I was only making reference to my own case but you only read what you wanted to read.
You have taken the opportunity to take yet another cheap shot at me, by golly, you should start hanging out with the BJ's and the Lori's of the site.. Hollier then thou attitudes, with no ability whatsoever to debate. I disagreed with you, therefore I am wrong.. Wrong Wrong Wrong.. Not only am I wrong, I am now showing no respect for you and your opinions, and am somehow throwing shit in your face..
Hahaha, this made me laugh out loud. By golly, you just turned everything I said to you around on me. All I heard/read was "I'm rubber and your glue.....and so on" nanner nanner nanner.
Shady, ask yourself this, do you really think I knew how personal this was to you? The answer is NO.. I did know how personal it was to some of your friends, some of my friends, and how you showed no respect to many of them w
Thank you for saying that. It really is a vicious cycle in both cases - physical or mental abuse.
I try really hard not to judge people, but I think we all do to some extent. It's the "grass is always greener" thing. I also understand that every situation is different on cheating, as I said several times yesterday, and try toput myself in that person's shoes before forming an opinion.
Like I said before, the great thing about living in America and being an American is the freedom to have opinions and speak passionately about them. From personal family experience, I have seen what cheating does to the person being cheated on and the kids and I think it's cowardly. I have written off a couple friends in the past for "dating" married men and that is just the way I feel and it will never change.
Anywho, I don't like all this fighting and people's feelings getting hurt so I am done "debating" this topic with you publically.
I cannot control how someone may interpet what I write and if they read it wrong, I'm sorry for them.
Ok Nicole, i understand maybe I got your initial post a little mixed up. I thought you mentioned all owmne who cheat or sleep with a married man are a diosgrace to your gender, whereas you stated that women that allow their men to cheat and keep taking them back..
My bad.. I sort of agree with you, just like women that are beaten by their men and take them back, I think its cause for a vicious cycle..
As for Shady.. Shady spoke about Women who prey on married men.. She used her own experiance.. I agree, maybe its a little shady for the lady, but ultimately, the blame should be put on the husband, or in the fact of the opposite, it should be placed on the man..
Basically, I havent read every post, I have skimmed, but my most important point is that each case oif infedelity is different. Each situation is different, and I have a hard time judging anyone...
Kevin, you are so full of shit.
Pay attention and re-read. I said that women like that girl's friend (who she posted about letting her man cheat and staying with him) are a disgrace to our gender and I will always feel that way. I NEVER said what you are attempting to quote me as saying above.
You really should pay attention to what people actually said before throwing shit like this out there.
I have to say that I agree with Shady on this one 100%. You completely over-reacted, got nasty and most importantly only heard what YOU wanted to hear/read.
Yes, is specifically named you and Nicole in that post. Why? Because you generalized in your response that all these women who mess with Married Men are a disgrace to your gender, and all these women who cheat are this or that.. You see, this is not about me at all, this is about me having enough respect for people that I would never generalize or sterotype a group of people. Every case is different. Again, you based your opinion on your own situation, which is most definately different then many other peoples situations. But I digress...
You have taken the opportunity to take yet another cheap shot at me, by golly, you should start hanging out with the BJ's and the Lori's of the site.. Hollier then thou attitudes, with no ability whatsoever to debate. I disagreed with you, therefore I am wrong.. Wrong Wrong Wrong.. Not only am I wrong, I am now showing no respect for you and your opinions, and am somehow throwing shit in your face.. Shady, ask yourself this, do you really think I knew how personal this was to you? The answer is NO.. I did know how personal it was to some of your friends, some of my friends, and how you showed no respect to many of them with your outbursts and hollier then thou responses...
All I have said in this debate from the get go is that every case is different. Judging people based on things you or others know nothing about is not always prudent.
Don't question my ability to read and comprehend, when in fact you are the one who misread and did not understand the direction of my first post. You then decided to say FUCK YOU, and go on with your attitude..
As for your paragraph about how I post, how I humiliate? Fuck you Shady.. I havent humiliated a damn person here unwararanted. I have not slammed a person here unwarranted.. I will never apologize to you for this thread, mark that down.. You can claim to not be bitter, but thats exactly how you are acting...
My FUCK OFF KEVIN was a response to you specifically naming me in a post telling me I'm wrong and have no right to my feelings, I don't consider that at all a generalization and warranted the reaction given in my opinion. Oh wait, my opinion doesn't matter. And I already addressed the comment that prompted you to call me Judas, my intention was not what you believed to be personal. Go back and read. I cared enough to check myself.
I'm not at all surpised by your response Kevin. You somehow always make it all about you. Again, I was only speaking from my own experience, I was not using anyone else's as a reference. Again, I am not bitter and no longer angry but my feelings on the subject in GENERAL are strong based on my OWN experience. I do know specific situations and circumstances that I agree are justified but I did not make reference to them because they are not mine. The only disscussion I shared about others was with those here in this blog that chose to share. I was in no way lumping anyone into any catergory. If I may share this or these friends you speak of, then they already know how I feel about my experience and probably theirs too, if I may not know them then I honestly don't care and they shouldn't either.
It's my business I was discussing in this public forum and I don't care what a stranger to me might speculate. I do care however, what you, my friend, have turned our difference in opinion into but apparently I am the only one.
No one has any rights here but you, same old same old. You demand respect but don't give it back. It doesn't even seem that you really read the posts made to you. You only pick out what you can argue with, what you can throw back into someone's face. Then when your called on it, you make it how your feelings have been hurt by the reactions you get from the slams you give. You hardly ever take repsonsibility, hahaha, and when you do it's always in private. Humiliate in public and apologize in private. Un
If it is the Prozac...I need a handful.....no make that 2 just in case...LOL
These posts can be very fun...I am glad I found the net...
That is exactly right. I would never expect someone to view things the way I do. I can live with it, so it is ok for ME.
If you were meant to be more "easy going", you would be. You are just the way you are supposed to be.
Maybe my ass backwards way of lookin at it is just the Prozac talking! hahaha
A cure pill, imagine that, hahaha, that sure would piss off a whole lot of divorce attorneys
No Shady, You see, you disrespected my opinion with your anger issues by saying FUCK YOU KEVIN, when I was not talking about your situation whatsoever, rather I was standing yup for friends we may or may not share who are lumped into the category of women you ar disucssing freely in a public forum where many people speculate and generalize. Many of the people that read these blogs know alot more then you give them credit for, and I felt a need to stand up, especially when Nicole posted what she had to say. People say, Why do you take it personal Kevin? Because I was personally involved in situations just as these topics discuss, and in all cases, I was not ruining a marriage, I was actually helping people actually feel that someone wanted them, someone cared, and probably made them feel a lot better about themselves then they have in years..
You see, my replies were never pointed at your situation, it was pointed at the GENERAL statements people were making about those that cheat, as well as those that sleep waiht married women...
And actually Shady, throuhg all we have been through, I never knew the story of how your marriage ended,. I did not know you were still so bitter and angry...
But rest assured, the moment you said FUCK YOU KEVIN to something that really was not even the kind of comment to warrent it, and then the post about me justifying my relationships.. Well, that was a little too personal for this site, Not only that, there are way to many assholes and lurkers left to speculate.. Remember, the place is public, and well, some of you dont think about anyones feelings...
I wish I could be more easy going...I guess I have just seen too many good people both men and women hurt and hurting others and themselves..that it is hard to take that approach.....It just may be the population I interact with.....
In the end it is really just what everyone you, me or whom ever can live with....
I bet the pharmacuetical companies are working on a "cure" pill as we speak....lol.
No problems here Marty. I know people do not understand the way I think sometimes. Does not bother me. I am who I am. Everybody thinks their own way, that is what makes us who we are. You can't condemn people for their views... even the hard headed dems! haha
If I find out... I say that it is done. End it. I expect that I am respected in my request. It has obviously gone too far if I find out about it.
I understands views are varied and no two are alike or one right and one way..The thing that I wonder about is ..What happens if you every find out(not saying something is)do you forgive and go back to the way things were or what? No disrespect meant at all really ...I just am curious...(AKA NOSY) haha
If I am not treated any different Marty, I don't know.
I am not one of those women that go looking for shit. Checking cell phones, emails and such. You just may not like what you find. I don't want to know.
I told you, I have never met another woman that viewed this the way I do.
You don't consider lying to you,taking things from you, and being very disrespectable at the least not a form of abuse....
I'm upset right now, I probably only half meant what I just said. ~shrugs~ We've been through shit like this before. I'm just afraid that one of these times will be the last straw.
Hell yeah, I agree with that Kaye,
There are lots of women that can't be faithful too.....what's thier excuse? lol
Any type of mental/physical abuse is a deal breaker for sure... that would be for me and my children.
I dunno this time Angel, Kevin pretty much already knew this stuff about me. He was kinda present when I was going through it. He went and said hurtful things to me anyway. I did some re reading and he did feel I was making a personal statement to him early on in that other blog but I quickly responded, trying to assure him that I didn't mean it the way he read it. Apparently, my Judas status will remain.
He also knows that I struggle really hard controling my anger and aggression and yet he pushed me too far anyway. He called me names and intentionally used my personal loss to hurt me. I'm so pissed off at him my hands are shaking. I'm so hurt I have a lump in my throat.
Fuck Him!!
What would constitute a deal breaker for you? Just wondering!!!!
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