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Automotive Bailout? It may help a little, But let me solve the problem

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    Automotive Bailout? It may help a little, But let me solve the problem
    That Guy says (08 Mar '10)

    For that Brown Fella elected a few weeks ago, a puzzle is how Detroit's auto makers should be reshaped by the hand of government, with a taxpayer bailout or by letting bankruptcy judges take charge? Both fixes have their supporters, BUT I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT HERE, neither would really solve the industry's essential problem.

    Here's a better idea, one you haven't heard before, involving a contemporary curse word seldom used in the debate over the auto makers: "deregulation."

    No, Washington wouldn't have to find the courage to amend the labor laws to end the Big 3's captivity by the UAW. Nor would it have to repeal the CAFE rules that are now a sacred cow. It would simply have to allow auto makers to meet the fuel economy standards with any mix of autos made in domestic or overseas factories.

    Under the nonsensical "two fleet" rule that now applies, manufacturers meet the standards separately with their "domestically" and "nondomestically" produced fleets. What does this have to do with making sure U.S. consumers get good mileage? Nothing. It's a naked handout to the UAW at the expense of the companies and their customers.

    How dumb is the two-fleet rule? Nissan, in a petition for its removal, points out foreign brands may actually minimize the domestic content in their U.S. cars so they can continue to count as "nondomestic."

    How dumb is the rule? Chrysler might not be unraveling today if not for the two-fleet rule, the real genesis of the Hail Marys it's been throwing in all directions to find an electric car or a small-car partner or to merge with GM. Chrysler has a perfectly salvageable business making trucks, minivans, muscle cars and Jeeps -- doomed only by the lack of enough small, fuel-efficient cars to roll out of a UAW factory with a Chrysler emblem slapped on.

    For 30 years, to make and sell the large vehicles that earn their profits, the Big Three have been effectively required to build small cars in high-wage, UAW factories, though it means losing money on every car. (That -- not some perverse desire to make bad cars -- is why they skimped for decades on styling, engineering and materials in their family sedans.)

    Sure, this bullet would be far from silver and would still cause pain. The UAW might declare war to stop production from being shifted offshore. The Big Three might have to pay billions in job buyouts to use their new freedom. Since 2005, they've had some leeway under Nafta to shift "domestic" production to Mexico and haven't done much about it.

    But here's the key: Detroit would finally get what every foreign competitor and just about every other business has -- normal leverage over labor costs. Auto jobs wouldn't automatically flee offshore. The Big Three would rather hire high-quality U.S. workers -- but on the same terms that Toyota or Nissan or BMW do.

    Let's not kid ourselves that a taxpayer rescue would be anything but a down payment on a never-ending bailout. The bailout already is never-ending: Chrysler was already rescued once. Forgotten are the Reagan-era import quotas that inflated the price of every car sold in America to help prop up the Big Three. If hooked up to Washington life supports today, Detroit's first assignment would be to "protect jobs" -- job protection guarantees being one of the Big Three's fatal errors in the first place.

    Meanwhile, a bankruptcy judge can only void contracts, not laws. Not only would the UAW's labor monopoly remain intact, but the union is a major creditor of the Big Three and would likely become a major shareholder in any reorganized auto maker.

    With or without a taxpayer rescue or the ministrations of a bankruptcy court, breaking the labor monopoly is the step without which Detroit will remain the problem child of American industrial policy. And, lo, what would be politically unthinkable under any other circumstances is quite doable if styled a tweak to the fuel-economy rules. In last year's CAFE bill, the Senate actually voted to get rid of two-fleet, though it crept back via a House-Senate conference.

    The UAW, of course, has different ideas. The union expects Congress to pass new "card check" legislation to speed union takeovers of nonunion companies. Rather than reducing Detroit's domestic costs, why not raise Toyota's and Honda's? Then what about the cars they produce in their overseas factories? If Reagan could be buffaloed into imposing "voluntary" import quotas to keep GM afloat, why not a president what's-his-name?

    The stakes here are even bigger than they seem. Detroit's bad news could be America's worse news if the industry's year of living extra miserably starts the whole economy down the road to protectionism and taxpayer-financed industrial cronyism.

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on Mon, 03/08/2010 - 7:20pm

For that Brown Fella elected a few weeks ago, a puzzle is how Detroit's auto makers should be reshaped by the hand of government, with a taxpayer bailout or by letting bankruptcy judges take charge? Both fixes have their supporters, BUT I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT HERE, neither would really solve the industry's essential problem.

Here's a better idea, one you haven't heard before, involving a contemporary curse word seldom used in the debate over the auto makers: "deregulation."

No, Washington wouldn't have to find the courage to amend the labor laws to end the Big 3's captivity by the UAW. Nor would it have to repeal the CAFE rules that are now a sacred cow. It would simply have to allow auto makers to meet the fuel economy standards with any mix of autos made in domestic or overseas factories.

Under the nonsensical "two fleet" rule that now applies, manufacturers meet the standards separately with their "domestically" and "nondomestically" produced fleets. What does this have to do with making sure U.S. consumers get good mileage? Nothing. It's a naked handout to the UAW at the expense of the companies and their customers.

How dumb is the two-fleet rule? Nissan, in a petition for its removal, points out foreign brands may actually minimize the domestic content in their U.S. cars so they can continue to count as "nondomestic."

How dumb is the rule? Chrysler might not be unraveling today if not for the two-fleet rule, the real genesis of the Hail Marys it's been throwing in all directions to find an electric car or a small-car partner or to merge with GM. Chrysler has a perfectly salvageable business making trucks, minivans, muscle cars and Jeeps -- doomed only by the lack of enough small, fuel-efficient cars to roll out of a UAW factory with a Chrysler emblem slapped on.

For 30 years, to make and sell the large vehicles that earn their profits, the Big Three have been effectively required to build small cars in high-wage, UAW factories, though it means losing money on every car. (That -- not some perverse desire to make bad cars -- is why they skimped for decades on styling, engineering and materials in their family sedans.)

Sure, this bullet would be far from silver and would still cause pain. The UAW might declare war to stop production from being shifted offshore. The Big Three might have to pay billions in job buyouts to use their new freedom. Since 2005, they've had some leeway under Nafta to shift "domestic" production to Mexico and haven't done much about it.

But here's the key: Detroit would finally get what every foreign competitor and just about every other business has -- normal leverage over labor costs. Auto jobs wouldn't automatically flee offshore. The Big Three would rather hire high-quality U.S. workers -- but on the same terms that Toyota or Nissan or BMW do.

Let's not kid ourselves that a taxpayer rescue would be anything but a down payment on a never-ending bailout. The bailout already is never-ending: Chrysler was already rescued once. Forgotten are the Reagan-era import quotas that inflated the price of every car sold in America to help prop up the Big Three. If hooked up to Washington life supports today, Detroit's first assignment would be to "protect jobs" -- job protection guarantees being one of the Big Three's fatal errors in the first place.

Meanwhile, a bankruptcy judge can only void contracts, not laws. Not only would the UAW's labor monopoly remain intact, but the union is a major creditor of the Big Three and would likely become a major shareholder in any reorganized auto maker.

With or without a taxpayer rescue or the ministrations of a bankruptcy court, breaking the labor monopoly is the step without which Detroit will remain the problem child of American industrial policy. And, lo, what would be politically unthinkable under any other circumstances is quite doable if styled a tweak to the fuel-economy rules. In last year's CAFE bill, the Senate actually voted to get rid of two-fleet, though it crept back via a House-Senate conference.

The UAW, of course, has different ideas. The union expects Congress to pass new "card check" legislation to speed union takeovers of nonunion companies. Rather than reducing Detroit's domestic costs, why not raise Toyota's and Honda's? Then what about the cars they produce in their overseas factories? If Reagan could be buffaloed into imposing "voluntary" import quotas to keep GM afloat, why not a president what's-his-name?

The stakes here are even bigger than they seem. Detroit's bad news could be America's worse news if the industry's year of living extra miserably starts the whole economy down the road to protectionism and taxpayer-financed industrial cronyism.

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Melonie_2's picture

There are some good ideas here and they should be submitted to www.change.gov. the new administration is seeking viable ideas for change. Thanks Yall

DetroitRockGirl_2's picture

btw, ....I am sorry to friends I have offended who are going through hard times right now......

teresa_67's picture

The USA is in for some rough times ahead. We as Americans are permitting the government entirely 2 much control; The Congress has admitted that we now have socialized education in the USA. Then the congress created Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac to float loans on property that was sold for triple its true value with flexible rates too people who truely didnt have the income potential to cover the loan once the rates hit prime. Now the government is getting involved with bailing out banks and repossessing property, Whatta call this the government is failing us on purpose. American has been spoiled for too long. Americans want more money yet the production stays the same. Large corporations have left USA to produce the same product in another country for a few dollars per day. The government has a plan to produce a new workforce to compete with 3rd world countries. To achieve this we must start with the children in grade school test each child to determine IQ than sort into 3 catergories and educate at that level. Only 20% of the children today will recieve a full college education to be our CEO engineers, doctors etc than 40% with recieve technical training such as nurses, therapist, skilled construction, plumbers, electrians etc than the other 40% with be ur factory workers, laborers etc. This plan has been in place since 1968 break the unions, control the schoolboards with our tax dollars to incorporate these yearly testing for no child left behind. Each one of ur children will be tested in junior year to recieve a seal for reading/math for their diploma if they dont pass the test they dont recieve the seals do u see the reason yet? The more and more we continue to sit back and let the governmnet use our tax dollars against us the more freedom we lose. We as Americans must wake up, our right to bear arms only passed by one vote this year. 542 people make all our decision and spend all our money these include the House, Congress, legislature. In Tamp

DetroitRockGirl_2's picture

Wowie- I think I may actually agree with you Kev { DRG hurriedly marking this day on the calendar}.

Sadly, this crisis does seem so far gone there is no good answer at this late date. Bailing out the Big Three to continue "business as usual" is a loser for sure.
In the Sunday Detroit Freep I read how the members of the UAW feel they have "already given enough". And all I could think was....are you fucking kidding me? Well, they just may get to see the alternative to adapting to market constraints soon enough.
What I find sad though is the belief (particularly on Wall Street) that the industry isn't important (it accounts for 4% of the U.S. GDP!)...one study I read said the domino effect from loss of the Big Three would result in the loss of at least one million jobs across the country.
Detroit is screwed.

Casper Girl TruckDriver's picture

Good read there.
I have to a admit I don't see a quick and easy fix to the problem,
and for some reason thats what most of these people want and expect.
I say let them go thru the bankrupcy process, reorganize how they run the business, Government needs to step outta it cuz Government doesn't belong in business, and Unions need to realize when they are actually hurting the company , Thats just my two cents.