President Obama saved my auto job here in Detroit - not you KR

Gotta be a sheer desire and passion there... takes a lot of devotion ~ to kick some ass
Blue.. thanks
Ajay, I relate to most everything you have mentioned. As almost as if, I'm looking in the mirror and you speaking on my behalf 5 years into the future, so to speak. Wild! Being that you are around Kid's age, how old... or how long have you been working towards this. I'm a few years younger than Kid.. just turned 37 in July. I am hoping to achieve a degree with-in 5 years.. taking it slow at first. I'm realizing it's a lot of work. Paper due every week... 2 chapters of 50 pages need to be read... and extra exercises to work on 'my lab' on the computer. I admire someone who may have the extra burden of not only a job, but something I too do not have... kids to tend to. Can not imagine. Long time ago while in high school, I used those years to go to vo-tech for a half of school day. At the time, I wanted to take cosmetology... but my mom couldn't afford the 300 some bucks to pay for the equipment... so my other choice was health occupations. At 17, I became a CNA. Was placed in a nursing home, where I felt too stressed, immature, having a whole wing every night of 12 rooms, 2 in each room to take care of. Well, of course, the issue of them wanting to talk with ya being lonely got in the way of my time on the wing. Loved taking care of them and being apart of their lives, but the time factor became stressful and a failure to keep the job. I've always been a lil too detailed, too. Anyway.. I then followed administration.. worked 7 years at a behavior health op facility.. which fascinated me. Anyway... back to the vo-tech years... in the 2nd year.. we spent every Monday, 1/2 days at the hospital. With reading your OB experience... it reminded me of the enjoyment of going to the different sections in the hospital... I also enjoyed hanging out in the surgery unit. Got to see some kid's tonsils come out. Then the day surgery.. saw a hammertoe op.

It is rough Beckxy. I got my cna in like 1990. LPN in like 1993. Worked for a few years and went back to the factories. I chose the wrong nursing jobs for me. I took nursing home jobs. They depress the shit out of me. Ppl there without any visitors and shit like that. The last few years i slowly took pre-reqs for ADN school. Pulled A's and then got accepted. IT is hard in my area to get accepted. Then you gotta work your ass off the whole time. Which i been doing it since the beginning of January with no real break. We got a week off in June and August, but both times we had to go back in and take a test. So it wasn't really off...We go until mid December. So far so good is all i can say. I will believe it is a reality when they pin me. It will be celebration time when i pass my boards...hopefully on the first try. Until then i gotta keep my nose to the grindstone and eek it out. It is a lot of sacrifice. A lot of not getting to do what you want because you have x amount of chapters to read in medical books, or study power points, or go to bed early to get up for clinical's and so on. But it will all be worth it in the end....least that is what i tell myself. Only wish i had done it when i was 15 years younger, a year or two after LPN school.

And for me it is not so much a good career choice. I do honestly care about ppl. Did an OB clinical today and got to see 2 epidurals, 1 vag delivery, and one c-section. Was a great day. Wanted to see surgery because i have interest in surgical nursing. I really liked it. It is a skill that will be open anywhere one might live as well. I like OB so far too. Sadly i don't have children and it makes you start thinking about having one. I am Kid's age, he is several months older but what the heck. I figure we can all ponder that but i doubt i will ever have a child. But it is a blessed experience to see them born.

Anyway. If you truly like medical go for it. Nurses are needed. If not try to chose something you can do in medical

Pay cuts and everything else goes up. So the extras that most ppl did like eating out, going to the movies, going to concerts, etc have decreased. I still can't back OBAMANATION. I don't care what you say. I got a bad feeling about that fucker. AND i have learned from the past. I go with my gut. If it don't feel right there is something there. Call it women's intuition or whatever.

AND whoever was talking about going back to school and going on federal loans with that....good luck right now you can't get shit for school. Trust me i would be trying if so. INSTEAD of working part time and using the money i put out blood, sweat, and tears for to put myself through ADN school. If all keeps going as is i have hopes of getting scholarship dollars from an honor society i was invited to join last fall and am still in. THEY offer real assistance. That or work for a large hospital near here that will pay your tuition you just have to agree to stay there x amount of years after you are done with school. I just honestly don't wanna be tied to the area i am from. As i would like to start making trips to Nashvegas a couple of times a month @ first. IF all goes well i will probably wind up moving there permanently. But there is always the option of pursuing a further degree online with my money and scholarship backing....I have a few options in mind....but i have to see where life takes me as well.

I am truly apolitical....translation. I DON'T LIKE ANY POLITICIANS. If there lips are moving they are lying....worse then lawyers. But to me with Romney i feel he isn't floating bullshit promises out there to get your vote that he has no intention of ever fulfilling like OBAMA. Where is health care for everyone and @ what cost will it be to the working class who truly can't afford to pay for it? He gives ppl a crumb and they think they are eating cake....it is bait ppl! It is like a pimp buying you a new dress....just to have you put it on and get your ass back on the corner...

lol Beckxy, "that's why this November, I am voting for Bill Clinton" haha. Ahh the 90's...he was a good Pres. though he did have a hard time keepin his dick in his pants lol....but my life was better during his presidency. Things took a nose dive in 2002 when my husband lost his job (automotive supplier) that was the scariest time of our lives, we had a baby not even a year old at the time, during that time our dog died too..sounds like a bad country song lol. Anyway, it took 3 months to find a job, which is nothing compared to what's going on with people nowadays. My husbands employer is doing a lot better the last 2-3 years expanding, giving out raises again, 401k contributions again... my husband took an almost $20,000 pay cut back in 08, it's starting to look up again slowly, but it's in the right direction.

I have a ton of empathy for Detroit. I know what it is like to watch every one around you loose their jobs, culture, and a way of life for generations of families.

I was proudly raised on Timber Dollars. Although the lumber industry didn't have the media coverage that Detriot has had...a way of life for a lot of people is nearly wiped away now. Whole mills shut down, sold, and shipped out lock-stock-and barrel to Japan. I can't tell you how devastating it has been for the Lumber industries to be wiped out, for the whole North West. So many mills gone... My family had generations working in the Mills, from my Grandfather on down the line. Now it is all gone...I am only greatfull that the Car Industry didn't suffer the same fate...

I often wonder if there is a link between the beginning of the decline of the Lumber Industry 30+ years ago, and the Car Industry in Detriot. I am sure there has to be some wood products involved with making cars. Wood product is found in so many things, even toothpaste...

As for the election, the sad reality for myself is that I am voting for Micky Mouse this year...I can't pick between the lesser of two evils... :-(

LOVE it, Ajay!
BTW, anyone interested in the auto industry debacle should investigate why Ford Motor Company didn't take a bailout.....

I love the Big Three, Penny, but seriously, GM needed to (and still needs to) fix their business practices. So if you had lost your pension, there would have been nobody to blame but the Fatcat business executives and their bad decisions (PS I am glad that you did not lose the pension, as my brother also worked for GM and would have been affected also)

Detroit's decline can be traced back to the Interstate Highway Act of 1956. Detroit lobbied hard for a highway system to promote car ownership. Since there were now roads to travel, ppl didn't have to live in cities anymore. By the early 1960's, the suburbs around Detroit had grown by 25%-ppl left the city to live on a plot of land outside it. This caused Detroit's tax base to decline. The 1967 riots accelerated the exodus from the city. As the years rolled by, America shed its industrial base and industrial jobs declined in need. The unions and the Big Three entered into contracts with expensive future costs attached to them. Mayor Coleman Young's corruption accelerated the growing problems.
By 1970, Detroit's population had declined by 20% (from a high of 1.8 million in the 1950's.) By 1980 (32 years ago, not 10), when the recession hit (remember 25% unemployment? I do), Detroit took a hit that we've been trying to recover from since.
So there is enough blame to go around.

Thank You, Angel..I've been holding my tongue for 2 days now...
PS the Democratic Party of today is NOTHING like JFK's Party--if it was, maybe I'd vote for a democrat.